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    Factorio Weekly Question Thread

    Weekly Question Thread

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 11:05 AM PDT

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    My First Blue Circuit Build. It's low tech but its mine.

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 10:53 PM PDT

    You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 10:11 PM PDT

    My best friend left to go to college yesterday, I guess he'll never see our first rocket launch...

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 11:27 PM PDT

    How lazy are you? I'm this lazy.

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 07:58 PM PDT

    Is there a way for the Object Info box to not go out of the screen? Happens with Logistics Storage and Circuit Signals when there's way too many objects on the network

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 06:46 PM PDT

    The most perfect spot to build! (I guess base is a flair to match)

    Posted: 01 Sep 2020 02:46 AM PDT

    I just beat the last level of belt madness with no undergrounds longer than 4 tiles!

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 10:35 PM PDT

    I don’t think I’m smart enough for this game.

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 09:35 PM PDT

    This might be a bit jumpy because I have ADD so bare with me lol

    First off, I'm not calling myself dumb, although I can be dumb I'm by no stretch, dumb.

    The reason I love Factorio is because of how optimised you can be, you build one thing and now you need to build something else to support it

    I care a LOT about doing things right, I've completed the game a few times normally with some QoL mods installed but nothing game changing (other than LTN)

    But, the fact I need to do things right is the problem

    In school I always did well, especially with math, I was the type of kid who got told I was amazing my whole life to not really do anything later on but I digress

    Finding ratios and speed and efficiency is all pretty natural to me, but there's just so much I can't begin to understand and it slowly gets to me

    I see such amazing blueprints on here and I can wrap my head around how it works but I have no clue who anyone could ever figure it out

    Bussing is something I've never really worked with like everyone my first factory was a spaghettio messio of a factorio and my second was a pretty nearly organised LTN train base that I was proud of but, there was about 150 train stops and not even to space science yet so it was TEEMING with issues

    And now, back to my problem, I can't properly enjoy myself if I'm not doing things right, my bases were good but, they weren't as good as they could be, and the unhealthy obsession of it needs to be better it needs to be better and was gonna slowly grind on me

    And, I just don't think I'm smart enough to work it out

    Sorry if this post isn't very fitting for this subreddit or somewhat depressing I felt I needed to vent a bit, it gets pretty frustrating thinking like this and factorio makes this personal flaw REALLY apparent, also sorry if this might not have made much sense, ADD can really confundle my brain into nonsense and it's half 5am and I've not slept lol

    anyway thank you for reading this far

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    welcome to 300x research cost, where red science costs 33k

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 02:33 PM PDT

    I'm finally a lazy bastard.

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 11:43 PM PDT

    I'm finally a lazy bastard.

    I felt the need to share this because it took me forever to even attempt this achievement. I'm super happy to finally get this. I did it duo but I essentially did 90% of the work so I consider I did it solo. :)

    I was surprised it was much easier than I expected. Only the beginning was a pain. For anyone who hasn't attempted.

    1. Look up guide
    2. Follow guide early game & pin achievement
    3. /permissions and disable crafting to prevent screwing up :) (this saved me many, many times...)

    https://preview.redd.it/xmmumj8hdhk51.jpg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=133d4f53e7e4147d039e5d97919f7b1fd24a8d30

    Just to add, absolutely love this game! (not a new player but I never shared my love)

    Also first post so wasn't sure about the flair.

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    It's a piano!

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 11:41 PM PDT

    i need it so that when say the left train is going to pass on the middle rail the right one cant pass, But this layout doesnt work how can i fix it?

    Posted: 01 Sep 2020 04:21 AM PDT

    My new green circuit setup is looking very pretty.

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 09:58 AM PDT

    Military science was a pain to figure out, but here is my first attempt, how is it?

    Posted: 01 Sep 2020 07:10 AM PDT

    I cannot close my Factorio

    Posted: 01 Sep 2020 02:50 AM PDT

    Recently i cannot close my factorio in both mentally and technically.

    For the technical part, when i click quit in the menu, the Factorio window will be closed, but actually it is still running at background. And the steam would show the game is running, it make me cannot restart the game, until i close the background running program by task manager.

    Anyone got this problem? or it is my window problem? Seems it happen after 1.0

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    Question about ratios

    Posted: 01 Sep 2020 07:11 AM PDT

    Salutations,

    I have just reached oil and thus been looking forward to impeoving my base. I run a buss of basic materials along an axis and have factories on parallel. Now that I have steel I want to upgrade to blue assemblers.

    How do I go about calculating the ratios of blue assemblers? What about recipes which require other assemblers? And ratios of oil using pipes?

    I appreciate any equations given to calculate the ratios myself and not use a calculator that does everything for me.

    Thank you.

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    Got Lazy Bastard and a few other ones on default settings. It's my second rocket launch. There is no spoon is next :D

    Posted: 01 Sep 2020 01:40 AM PDT

    Just launched my first rocket!

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 03:12 PM PDT

    The Blue Gun (my blue science setup, raw to finished all in one build)

    Posted: 01 Sep 2020 12:30 AM PDT

    Sometimes I make confusing spaghetti messes in my more or less organized bases, just for fun.

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 07:38 PM PDT

    Coal Liquefaction & why you should stop burning coal once you get it

    Posted: 31 Aug 2020 01:28 PM PDT

    Blueprint Liquefaction

    Oil Balancer for fuel

    So Coal Liquefaction is often not used. One gets more than enough heavy oil from advanced cracking, so its not really needed to produce more of it. Conversely excess oil is often just used for fuel or burnt for energy, by being converted to solid fuel first.

    The thing about Coal Liquefaction is that it yields an incredible about of heavy oil and other oil products, though.

    10 Coal + 25 Heavy Oil + 50 Steam --> 90 Heavy Oil + 20 Light Oil + 10 Gas

    I calculated the energy equivalents, i.e. energy in burn values and requirements to produce steam. Heavy Oil is special in that regard, since it yields MORE burn value when cracked to light oil first (increase from 0.6MJ to 0.9MJ per heavy oil).

    This results in:

    10 Coal*4MJ + 25 Heavy Oil*0.9MJ + 50 Steam*0.03MJ --> 90 Heavy Oil*0.9MJ + 20 Light Oil*1.2MJ + 10 Gas*0.6MJ = 64MJ in vs. 111MJ out (not accounting for production costs otherwise)

    The theoretical percentage gains over burning coal directly in burners is:

    • +69% without heavy oil cracking
    • +118% with heavy oil cracking

    Thus Coal Liquefaction can be used to increase the burn value of coal (if it isn't being used for products that require it). The great thing about oil is that the oil fields never fully deplete, so this allows for a continued supply. Regardless, oil liquefaction is self-sufficient in its supply of heavy oil, since the output can be used to keep it going. Thus technically the only limiting supply is the coal.

    Below I'll be sharing blueprints for an optimized setup. I did the detailed math tyng to arrive at good rations, and I'm fairly satisfied with the result. To cut a long story short one can actually lose energy on coal liquefaction without cracking when using speed modules (~-45% vs coal when using all lv3), since they will ramp up energy drain while the output of solid fuel will be limited. Cracking always will be profitable, but the rations of modules will affect the number of buildings needed for a steady state, and affect the gains. I arrived at a good ratio using speed modules for the liquefaction, and a mix of speed and efficiency for conversion. The setup presented below yields roughly +93% increased energy value (of the theoretical 118%), but accounts for all energy used for production. More energy could be squeezed out of the setup with beacons (e.g. covering the refinery/productions), but the gain isn't really woth the increase in space requirements and other complications. The design produces an excess of solid fuel sufficient for an additional 3 blocks of burners (i.e. 3x 20 burners with 40 steam engines). I also share a oil balancer for advanced cracking output designed to convert the output of 1 refinery entirely to energy under full load.

    I'll try to share some blueprints using the bot and update the post - its a novelty for myself so bear with me.

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